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#618062 Should Berto Avenge his Loss or move on

Posted by Franchize on 24 March 2015 - 01:24 PM

Ronda Rousey vs Victor Ortiz -- WHO would win?


Serious question. Now Ronda is not allowed to use kicks and grapples. She is only allowed to use her boxing discipline.


Now WHO is you pick and why?

Just for clarification purposes, this isn't a serious question right? 

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#617990 Mayweather-Pacquiao: May 2, 2015-Preview and Poll! (New Posts p. 313)

Posted by ks1 on 21 March 2015 - 01:23 PM


But its not evidence, its not even circumstantial evidence. But lets sift through it quickly


1. Well there did spend the last how long saying they dont wanna do random blood and urine testing did they not? Wouldn't it be hypocritical to say we'll test for Marquez but not Floyd?

2. Am pretty certain Arum said that and he all agree he talks a lotta shit

3. Theres an interview just after the Morales fight confirming this, not that it was the reason, but he was psychologically affected. People on this board conveniently ignore it when I post it.

4. Theres two ways to look at this one, probably Roach just really wanted to get at Ariza, I mean the dude kicked him in the chest and it was pay back, albeit also throwing there own camp under the bus. On the other hand whats this dude then doing with Floyd "Am clean" Mayweather.


Finally this isn't about saying Pacs clean, the stuff I've been reading about the rampant use in BodyBuilding, NFL, Powerlifting, Olympic Weightlifting makes me think actually, Boxing is more corrupt than all those sports, so why wouldn't it happen there too.


Its harder to judge in boxing because they've been fairly old school with the training so you don't know whether its new stuff that makes the impact. But all we know is that athletes in the 1890s were the only ones clean

Re #3, I suspect people are ignoring it because it's not confirmation.  It's an excuse or rationalization for a loss.  Just because he used the same bs excuse/"reason" years later doesn't make it confirmation.  Funny how he says nothing about being psychologically affected by it when he wins.    Cmon, now, if Floyd said something like that people would laugh at him.  Rightfully so.

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#617871 Mayweather-Pacquiao: May 2, 2015-Preview and Poll! (New Posts p. 313)

Posted by mgrover on 18 March 2015 - 06:27 AM

holy shit Roach said something that makes sense 



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#617870 Mayweather-Pacquiao: May 2, 2015-Preview and Poll! (New Posts p. 313)

Posted by BigHouseLou on 18 March 2015 - 01:32 AM

My son due date is april 28th, so i told my girl before hand if he comes late and he comes on may 2 im gona have to stream the fight from the delivery room......let me tell you, she cannot take a joke....i told her i been waiting for the fight since 09 and the baby for 9 months it doesnt seem fair lol



exciting fight indeed

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#617014 Soooo.... Canelo will have to move his date to 5/9...

Posted by Dolimite on 24 February 2015 - 01:02 PM

...as if those ugly PPV numbers last year haven't already done so....

No they didn't it only gave him motivation to think he is at the top. He should have 3 Ls but Trout and Lara shot themselves in the foot. No way anyone will get a decision over Canelo not named Mayweather who won by majority. That should tell you the BS that comes with this kid. Fuck him! If he were smart he would of tried to get on May 2nd undercard. 

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#616989 Soooo.... Canelo will have to move his date to 5/9...

Posted by daprofessor on 23 February 2015 - 09:01 PM

oscar has always had a bad habit of playing his cards way too soon. they tried to announce the cotto fight as if they were the A side....then they tried to hijack cinco de mayo weekend...fail. canelo is NOT the star they are trying to promote him as. if kirkland can force a pace on canelo...he may stop him/beat him. kirkland is a dog when he needs to be. he has plenty of time to get in shape...and he's working with the dude that helped marquez. should be interesting while it lasts. i'm rooting for kirkland. 

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#616985 Soooo.... Canelo will have to move his date to 5/9...

Posted by mrchitown on 23 February 2015 - 06:25 PM

Kirkland going to get worked since he doesn't have Wolfe training him..and I laughed so hard when Oscar went in to damage control saying Canelo feels cinco de mayo is a whole week so he feels he secured the date. Gtfoh, Canelo and Oscar somewhere sitting with the I eat ass face lol
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#616832 Ward being Stripped and Compubox

Posted by BoxingFan86 on 19 February 2015 - 11:12 PM

The fact that he emerged from the Super Six Tournament victorious should eliminate all the (negative) talk about his level of competition.

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#616810 Ward being Stripped and Compubox

Posted by daprofessor on 19 February 2015 - 07:26 PM

all of that don't mean shit. the guys that write for ring really don't know shit about boxing and they're very biased. 


compubox can go. 

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#616442 Manny and Arum DUCKING Floyd

Posted by BrutUalBK on 04 February 2015 - 10:27 AM

I'm kinda with Sauce on this one, I suspect that the so called "Fight Of The Century" will end up being a one-sided asswhuppin/sparring session, I believe Mayweather will start to sharpshoot his right hand on Manny and he will make it look easy after 5 rounds.


I think it'll look easier than the SSM fight and most people will walk away disappointed, it won't be like the DLH fight or as obvious as the JMM fight but I think it will be a drubbing after 5 rounds.

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#616300 HBO@9:45PM(ET)/6:45PM(PT) - Rios vs Alvarado 3 - SPOILERS

Posted by Franchize on 28 January 2015 - 04:43 PM

Rios did look good. Hopefully,Alvarado's team isn't a bunch of leeches and just out for the paycheck. That stuff in the corner at the end was telling. Someone on his team needs to look out for his best interest. Not sure if Mike is in the best shape mentally to do that. He needs a break and some professional help. Boxing will be there if/when he gets his life together. Don't want to see another Johnny Tapia situation.

The fact that they still wanted him to fight was disgusting. You could tell from the first round he wanted no parts of that ring. At least with Tapia, he looked like he wanted to be there even if he wasn't in the state to be there. Alvarado looked like he just wanted to get it over with. 


Only fight I care to see Rios in is against Ortiz. The buildup and animosity oughta be worth suffering through the suffering of watching such piss poor fundamentals lol

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#614842 Floyd vs Cotto has to be next

Posted by xxxxxx on 29 December 2014 - 07:44 PM

Mayweather-Cotto 2 for Middleweight lineage is the only fight I would be content with outside the Big one. First fight was good and entertaining. Cotto is the real deal folks.

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#613540 PPV@9PM(ET/6PM(PT)) Pacquiao vs. Algieri-SPOILERS

Posted by mrchitown on 24 November 2014 - 04:46 PM

Caught the fight on YouTube before it got taken down luckily, I'm glad I didn't purchase the PPV. No one I knew who actually bought it enjoyed it.

I heard Lomanchenko was looking good and when I asked about Zou all I got was crickets lol

The knockdowns weren't even legit knockdowns,many were slips because it was puddles in that damn corner. A few of them were legit though, I forget which round it was but I think it was the 6th and Pacquiao hit Algieri with a left clean and the lights flickered real quick...the worse part of the fight had to be when Algieri's trainer was talking about cutting Algieri loose and he gets knocked down right when he said that crap lol

It was a mediocre fight though imo Pacquiao did look better then he has in recent fights. Part of me wants to attribute it to him being the catch weight King and the other part of me wants to think it was because he actually took thenfight serious and trained hard. Also think he looked marginally better defensively, but Algieri didn't do himself any favors by not throwing frequently..the post fight was corny, the commercial wasn't that funny Manny give it a rest lol. Algieri's exuded confidence in the lead up to the fight, seems like when he got hit all that confidence left

HBO was pathetic as usual, it was blocked punches beimg oohed and ahh'ed by Lampley and Kelerman and once again Roy had to snap them back to reality
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#617943 Mayweather- Pacquiao: May 2nd Undercard (Comments/Updates)

Posted by daprofessor on 20 March 2015 - 07:49 PM

without a stacked card...this is going to underwhelm. 

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#617918 Mayweather-Pacquiao: May 2, 2015-Preview and Poll! (New Posts p. 313)

Posted by Franchize on 20 March 2015 - 11:56 AM

All I see is a bunch of guys talking, interviewing and testing each other's gamesmanship except Floyd. I don't know if it's a good thing (he's about to put on a Gatti like performance) or a bad (maybe he's a bit nervous) but this dude looks more focus than I've seen him in years. And for a guy, who's always in shape and always disciplined in his craft, that's scary. I know obviously there's more than what meets the eye and I'm sure Manny is working his butt off too. I just wonder. I've heard a lot of people say Floyd might be taking Manny lightly. Nobody seems to ask whether Manny may be taking Floyd lightly. I think the general consensus (not the die hard fans) is that Manny just has to worry about penetrating Floyd's defense. WRONG! Manny has to worry about Floyd's offense as well. He doesn't just counter-punch. If Manny thinks all he has to do is find a way to land and not get caught doing something stupid, he's wrong. Also, the physical aspect of the fight is being overlooked as well. People point to glimmers of hope like Castillo, Maidana, ODLH, Cotto as some sort of blueprint on how to fight Floyd. Beyond the fact that those guys didn't win, Manny isn't that type of fighter. Manny isn't going to muscle Floyd and hold him on the ropes. While Manny punches harder, you could argue that Floyd is by far the more physical fighter. It'll be interesting to see how everything plays out and what's the gameplan for both fighters. 

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#617890 Mayweather Sr

Posted by Dolimite on 18 March 2015 - 02:11 PM

Sr. build Floyd brick by brick. Virgil built Ward brick by brick. Ben Geaty built Thurman brick brick Freddie added a fresh coat of paint to the house.
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#617848 Mayweather Sr

Posted by Dolimite on 17 March 2015 - 11:41 AM

Being good trainer means you have to have a deep stable of fighters? Sr. only wanted to train his son. He has done a great job. Floyd had to be taught the art of boxing. He always credits his dad for his success. Fighters pick trainers who can improve their fighting style. Freddie has a lot of fighters but how many get his attention and how many have left? Angel.Garcia only trains Danny, does that make him a bad trainer, Gary Russell Sr. trains his kid, the list goes on. Sr. molded made the perfect fighter according to him, why train other people when your creation is still going strong? By the way Zhou Shimming just lost to sub par fighter, what adjustments did Roach tell him to make? Naz is a great trainer.. he gave great instructions to Cunningham, now the.judges screwed him but hey
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#617830 Mayweather Sr

Posted by mgrover on 16 March 2015 - 03:05 PM

Let's be honest, the only person Sr. ever wanted to train was Jr. Does that make him an unproven trainer?


No for a man who boasts so much he shows so little. Perfect quote for this


"One who puts on his armor should not boast like one who takes it off."


Freddie is actually more proven by the simple fact he trains people. Albeit its kinda hard to figure out who he trains and who he puts finishing touches on, Ruslans an example of this, who trains him? lol

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#617493 NBC@8:30(ET)/6:30(PT)-Thurman/Gurrero+Broner/Molina SPOILERS (Topics Merged)

Posted by Cshel86 on 09 March 2015 - 10:00 AM

I haven't watched the fight since Saturday, but there are a few things that stuck out with me, concerning both guys. 



1. He seemed a bit too amped, as if he wanted it too bad....if that makes any sense. He got sloppy early on, because he was trying so hard to hurt Guerrero and set the pace of the fight. 

2. He got countered with the SAME shot that Soto-Karass caught him with, and it woke him up, rather than hurt him.

3. He may have underestimated Guerrero a bit....that was evident later in the fight

4. He may have shot his load in the closing seconds of the 9th round, after he THOUGHT he had Guerrero outta there. The left hand behind the head while Guerrero was crouched down, is what started the knockdown. 

5. If he wants to be a complete fighter (he's pretty damn close), then he needs to learn some defense against the ropes...no way in hell RG should've been able to mount that type of offense late in the fight. 

6. The sloppiness late in the fight scared me a bit. Again, I believe he shot his load at the end of the 9th round, or he was that damn surprised that RG was still there. 

7. I liked his attacks...he feints in and out and gets a guy to commit, then starts with a short shot, JUST to follow up with a power shot with the same hand. 



1. He waited too damn late to press the action....he may have given Keith too much respect, or he was either too cautious of Keith's power. 

2. He didn't use the jab enough

3. He remained calm and didn't sell out....which made Keith reach in his tool box. 

4. He did pretty good countering Keith, but in a lot of spots, he got too counter happy and failed to impose his will. 

5. Head movement was far and few between....especially when got hurt in the 9th round...no way in hell Keith should have landed that same damn right hand consecutively while he was trapped in the corner. 


The overall program:

1. Man, did SRL hug nuts beyond repair, or what? I almost muted the TV during the Broner fight. I mean damn, for a guy his intellect and experience, he also failed to make a few calls during both fights, mainly in the main event, when Guerrero landed and nobody called it. 

2. Those ring entrances put me in the mind of a WWF video game...with a wrestler with weak entrance music. 

3. The setup was nice, no complaints there

4. The whole damn FightHype staff and forum members could've had a damn party in that ring. 24 ft? Really? That ring was overkill and I swore Broner was gonna crank a backflip in the last round, he had all the space in the world to do so while he ran. 

5. All of those moments of blank sound...was somebody cursing during those times?

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#617250 Soooo.... Canelo will have to move his date to 5/9...

Posted by Franchize on 07 March 2015 - 10:35 AM

How can people claim Juan juiced but never tested for anything negative and turn around and say Pac is clean? Juan wanted extra testing Team Pac turned it down, I don't understand the double standard. You can't say Juan is a cheater with no proof and then say another fighter is clean with no proof. Pac walked into that punch. Anyone who would deliver that Punch including fighters with lesser power would of KO Manny. He jumped into a punch, give the man his credit, 

I don't know about you but the only people I see saying Marquez juiced is people who wanted Manny to win lol 


Besides, Roach said himself while he thought Marquez juiced, they couldn't do anything about it because they weren't willing to test themselves. This came out of his own mouth. If that's not all but admitting you're guilty, I don't know what is. That's like seeing your wife text out naked pics and saying in divorce court "I didn't call her out on it because I wasn't willing to give her my phone." 

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