"Jon Jones don't want it anyway. We'll see what's going to happen. Yeah, when his punk ass gets eligible, he'll get the business
the fact that this guy went up there last week and said USADA found him innocent. Found him innocent? What? Come on, man. You're looking at the face of a liar, you're looking at the face of a guy
there are just so many lies in regards to the things that he says. For him to say I did the most dishonorable thing in the history of MMA. For him to say that, he opened the floodgates," stated UFC light heavyweight champion Daniel Cormier, who talked about his latest win, his future plans, and much more. Check it out!
PC: Congratulations on the submission win over Anthony Johnson. It's not often a rematch plays out exactly like the first fight, but that was the case in your rematch with Rumble. Did you anticipate having to survive another rough moment before you could break his will?
DC: My thing is this, and I always say it, you're in a fight. You're gonna get hit. It's a matter of what you do once you get hit or how do you manage getting hit. I'm fighting a guy in Anthony Johnson who is a good fighter and a top level fighter, so he's going to get strikes off. But it's like I said in the fight before, in the first fight, Anthony had a moment. That was it. I felt like I dominated him outside of that moment and I feel like I did the same thing again last Saturday.
PC: When facing a guy with good power, like a Rumble Johnson, can you tend to come out too timid and cautious because of his power, because he seems to always catch you right out of the gate?
DC: You can, but that's one thing I don't do. I just go fight. The one thing is you cannot be afraid, point blank. If you're afraid, you have no chance, man. You're already beat and you might as well stay home. I'm never scared. I go out there and I fight and if I get hit, I get hit. I gotta be honest with you because I gotta be truthful and completely honest with you, when he hits me, I really don't feel like that vaunted power. It's hard because I don't want to feel like I'm not being respectful or anything. I don't feel like, "Wow, that was so, so hard." I swear, man, the first time Jon Jones punched me, I was like, "Oh, he hits a little bit harder than I expected." I expected him not to be able to punch at all and he hit me with like a little right hand and he just kind of ducked his head and he threw it over the top and I was like, "Ah, he doesn't hit as soft as people say," but as the fight went on, it really did fade. Whereas with Rumble, you expect he hits you and in your mind, it goes, "Boom," because people make it seem like that. Like the moment he hits you, its like, "Boom! Boom! Boom!" He hit me and I was like, "This shit don't even really hurt." I swear, P, to this day, the only time I have been hurt to where I was like, "Wow, I was hurt," and I didn't even know it in the moment, it was when I went back and watched the fight I noticed how hurt I was, was Gustafsson when he kneed me. That first right hand from Rumble in the first fight didn't hurt; I just fell. It was more of impact and me slipping. The kick that he hit me with last weekend, it hurt; I felt like blunt force, but it didn't hurt to where I was like, "Oh my God, I'm hurt and fuzzy." Anderson kicked me to the body, that hurt, but it wasn't like I was just going to fall down. I've never had that punch where I was like, "Oh my goodness."
PC: So you never experienced feeling like you were on your way out.
DC: No, I never had that. I never had that feeling like I was fuzzy. I just don't get it, P. I don't get how these guys just fall down when Anthony hits them. How the hell these dudes just fall down the moment they get hit like that? It's like, you know you going to get hit, you jut gotta be ready for it.
PC: Anthony has filed for an appeal on the weigh-in situation and asked that you be stripped of your title. I'm not sure how much you can elaborate on what's going on there, but if so, what is up with that situation?
DC: So if you listen to the interviews and everything right after the fight, or even before the fight, I explained the towel situation. Now the issue is now because of the ongoing investigation with Anthony and his team saying I need to answer for the weigh-in and how everything went. I'm really not at liberty to discuss it anymore because it is ongoing. If we were kind of moving forward from it, I could talk about it at will, but because we may have to go to court, which I may have to do, I can't really speak on it as much as I was before.
PC: Do you feel like you will be cleared of any wrongdoing?
DC: Yes, I do. I don't think there is much to it. I just don't know what's going to happen, but I do feel confident that I will be okay.
PC: And you retired him, man. You sent Anthony "Rumble" Johnson into retirement. Were you just as shocked as the rest of us by his announcement?
DC: It did! I was surprised. I was like, 'Wait, what?" I was surprised. But he told me as we were embracing after the fight, he goes, "Hey, this my last fight. I'm about to retire." So I said, "Go ahead and go first. You take the floor." For something so big, I didn't want to have my moment and kind of take the floor. I told him I wanted him to have his moment and I wanted him to go first.
PC: You're an avid pro wrestling fan; you know all about heel turns and things like that. You're that guy now and it seems like you have finally embraced it. Was it difficult for you to embrace the boos and dislikes and turn heel pretty much, or was it easy for you to do because they made it easy for you?
DC: Early I was confused. I was like, "I don't understand why people would boo me." It was hard for me because I didn't understand it. It's like, what did I do? I do everything right. I don't get into trouble. I do my business and I go home. So it was really difficult for me to understand initially, but then I just came to terms with the fact that people were going to do what they wanted to do and because of that, I can do and say whatever I want to. I think it's so funny, man, how people just decide, man. They don't care if you're a great guy, they don't care if you're a terrible guy, if they say they like you, then they like you; if they don't like you, they don't like you. It does not matter. Nothing is going to change their mind, so I'm like, "You know what, I don't care what you think about me. I'm going to be myself and tell you exactly how I feel. You're booing me anyway, so if you don't like it, just deal with it." So that's kind of my approach now, if you don't like it, deal with it. What are you going to do?
PC: And you are a nice guy and an approachable guy, so that has to be somewhat hard to be that way.
DC: Initially it was like that. Initially people did take to me in that way, but now, I don't know what I did. I don't know if maybe I'm on TV all the time or I talk too much. I don't know what I've done to where people have changed, but they have. So I have to roll with the punches, but that's okay. It really is okay, P! If you don't like me, you don't like me, that's fine. It really doesn't bother me.
PC: And it goes from the fans to fighters. I don't think I have seen any other fighter, and maybe because I'm not paying attention like that, but I haven't seen another fighter get into as many back and forths on social media with potential opponents as you do. I saw you and Jimi Manuwa get into it bright and early yesterday morning. A lot of your fights, if not made on social media, are definitely formed there.
DC: Man, Jimi is a little bit of a different guy. He's won a couple of fights, so he feels as though he deserves a title fight. He looked good in his last fight; knocked the guy out. He's got this cool little slogan, "One shot, one kill, lions eat first." Somebody fed him that line and now he just repeats it over and over and over. So I'm like, "Okay Jimi, I will kick your ass." He always talks about my fighting style, but the difference between him and I is, you don't like my fighting style, but I win. Jimi, I win! During his time, he will win two fights in a row and now he's clamoring for a title fight because he can't fight too many more times because he'll lose. That doesn't happen with me. Jon Jones beat me, but that's it. Nobody else beat me, so he's clamoring because it has to happen now. And you know what, P; I think I might actually give it to him. I may grant him what he wants. I may give him what he wants and then he will realize sometimes you ask for more than you can freaking chew.
PC: He's a heavy-handed guy; wants to keep the fight standing. Do you view him as Rumble Johnson.2 or do you see him as a completely different challenge?
DC: I think he might be a little bit better boxer than Rumble. I think he may be a little bit more patient to where Rumble kind of gets wild and crazy. Jimi does a good job of attacking the body with his left hook. He's got a nasty little left hook to the head, but he also has a left hook to the body as well. So there is some stuff that he has, but what about everything else though? What about his grappling and his wrestling and all of this other stuff. I don't feel as though he has the ability to stay with me in all those areas; plus I ain't gonna run away from him.
PC: You said you wouldn't discuss Jon Jones until he becomes eligible to fight, but obviously I gotta ask you about him.
DC: Jon Jones don't want it anyway. We'll see what's going to happen. Yeah, when his punk ass gets eligible, he'll get the business. Because we are in the new age now and one thing that has happened, Percy, with people going, "We don't like this guy," it has allowed me to really let out all of my thoughts in the whole Jones situation, I'm free to just say it now. What's it matter? It doesn't matter. I don't have to hold my tongue anymore for nothing. There is a lot of thoughts in regards to that guy and if he signs on that dotted line, I will make them public. The fact that this guy went up there last week and said USADA found him innocent. Found him innocent? What? Come on, man. You're looking at the face of a liar, you're looking at the face of a guy there are just so many lies in regards to the things that he says. For him to say I did the most dishonorable thing in the history of MMA. For him to say that, he opened the floodgates, homie. Now everything I feel will be said.
PC: I appreciate the time as always, enjoy this victory, and I can't wait for the next one. Give me some closing thoughts, my man.
DC: Thanks again for everything. Thanks to my team, AKA, my family, my wife, Salina, and my children, Zinkin Entertainment, and all of my sponsors, The UFC, they take care of my parents like you wouldn't believe. My parents are older and they pick them up from the hotel, drive them over to the arena, and get them to their seats. They bring them through the service elevator to make sure they are comfortable. The little things, man, that an organization can do to make you feel like you are part of the team, you cannot speak the value of that. I thank The UFC, Dana White, and everyone else for the things that they do in helping me with my family. And of course FightHype for always holding the boy down, man. I feel like this whole journey we have done together and I can look back on all the interviews that we did from day one all the way to where we are right now, man, so I thank you guys too. Good times, P!
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